Faith Leaders Fail to Justify Faith Schools
March 7th, 2009Angry about a potential Liberal Democrat policy to oppose religious discrimination in school admissions, a group of ‘faith leaders’ (a piece of journalese which roughly translates as ’self-important windbags’) have written a letter to the Guardian which is packed so full of logical fallacies there’s hardly any room left over for proselytising.
It’s mostly dull, but this bit is worth mentioning:
Tomorrow, delegates at the Liberal Democrat conference will have a choice of supporting the heritage and future of [faith] schools, or supporting a policy that would damage that which helps make them so successful. We hope that they choose to back the clear consensus of public opinion as reflected in the Guardian’s own poll published this week, which showed 69% of those with school-age children support a religious ethos in schools.
It seems to me that the argument is completely empty: there’s no reason to think that a school’s religious ethos would be damaged by admitting pupils who didn’t subscribe to that religion. I went to a church wedding last year, and spent the entire time resolutely not-believing in God, and yet the whole thing went off without a hitch, all the while exuding religiosity. The actual beliefs of the participants is completely irrelevant: me toeing the line and sitting quietly at the back of the church looks exactly the same whether or not I accept the ideas being preached from the front of it, and that’s as it should be. The whole thing is worse when there are children involved, because the idea of what they believe is fuzzier: an adult can believe in God and while they’re still wrong we must at least respect that they’re capable of deciding for themselves what they believe (even if they choose not to). With children that’s less true: a seven-year-old Christian is just parroting what his parents taught him. Even I was a Christian at that age (I think — I really don’t remember much from that long ago). The idea that you have to have pupils of a particular religion in order to maintain a school’s ‘character’ is a ridiculous claim made to justify a form of discrimination that should have been banned decades ago.
To me, the strongest argument against faith schools is that they don’t give children a chance to be who they want to be: a child from a Muslim family at a Muslim school with Muslim friends is not really being given any opportunity to develop in any other direction than strict adherance to Islam. That works out great for Islam, but pretty badly for the child, who may turn out to be gay or rational and have massive problems reconciling these natural traits with his imposed faith. I would solve that by banning faith-based education, but a good compromise is to allow culturally-religious schools such as the one avowed atheist Marcus du Sautoy’s children attend but ban them from discriminating.
The first two sentences of the letter are:
Tomorrow, the Liberal Democrats will debate education policy, including their position on the country’s 7,000 schools with religious character. The debate needs to be informed by facts and not conjecture.
Let’s see some facts, then. I would like to see a single scrap of evidence for the claim that discrimination is required to maintain the effectiveness of faith schools. I fully expect that there isn’t any.
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March 9th, 2009 at 15:31
I agree with everything that you say, but have you read the LibDems` policy statement? (On LibDemNews and National Secular Society sites.) Not only would they continue to support existing “faith schools”, but want to aid “the establishment of additional faith schools” as well. I`m absolutely bloody furious at this. Is there now ANY discernible difference between the three main political parties in ANY major area of policy? Some hope for democracy!!!
March 9th, 2009 at 15:36
I did read the policy, but only quickly last night. I know the NSS aren’t happy with it, although Accord seem to be satisfied. I thought it represented progress on the Government’s position, especially in terms of employment rules, but nothing like enough to be actually progressive.
I don’t know what the current official Labour and Conservative policies are to compare it to.
March 9th, 2009 at 15:42
PS Someone mentioned the charity site Justgiving (should be entitled “Justbegging” if you ask me!!). Have you seen the types of “charity” that are listed here, all claiming taxpayers` money in the form of Gift Aid? There is one called “The Association of Muslim Governors” I kid you not – I mean to say, what`s THAT all about then?!!
March 19th, 2009 at 20:09
“With children that’s less true: a seven-year-old Christian is just parroting what his parents taught him. Even I was a Christian at that age (I think — I really don’t remember much from that long ago).”
I know I was. Despite my parents being atheists, ironically. I blame Monday Club (which was Sunday School but… on a Monday. And a bit less overtly religious, at least at first).
I became an atheist round about 14 or so when I started fitting a bunch of pieces together. Pieces like “wait a minute, evolution explains dinosaurs a lot better” and “actually, I don’t think I like the idea of being someone’s servant, even if they are a divine being” and “the argument from design is trying to explain complexity by positing something even more complex, what the hell”.
March 20th, 2009 at 10:06
Bingo – we now know what the “Association of Muslim Governors” is all about then!! (See today`s story about “Islamaphobe” headmistress Erica Connor, who has been awarded over £400,000 in compensation after being driven out of her job and to the brink of a nervous breakdown by Muslim governors at her school, some of whom had no children at the school despite being named as “parent-governors”, and the ring-leader of whom was, naturally, a British “convert” to Mohammedanism. This is widely reported by all newspapers, and by the National Secular Society @ http://www.secularism.org.uk ).
March 20th, 2009 at 10:22
PS Maybe the AMG should stump up the compensation, rather than the hardpressed council-tax payers of Surrey. After all, THEY were the cause of the problem in the first place!!!
(PPS The ads on this site are hilarious – who on earth in their right mind would think that readers of this blog would be interested in “International Muslim Matrimonials” or “Learning Biblical Hebrew Online”?!!!!!)