The Government Is There To Enforce What I Want. Yes?
December 23rd, 2008Since I’ve been working on But Sir…, I’ve seen a lot of petitions asking for a total ban on swearing on TV. To those people I say ‘fuck off’.
The problem I have with it is that there’s no difference between a word that is swearing and a word that is not other than how people react to it. I’ve been over this before. The actual meaning of the word is irrelevant, as demonstrated by the relative offensiveness of ‘poo’, ‘crap’ and ’shit’. So if the words aren’t offensive because of what they mean then why is it? It’s arbitrary. It’s made up. Someone decided ‘fuck’ was offensive, so you started taking offence at it. So now it’s offensive because you take offence rather than the other way around. That’s self-reinforcing nonsense. It’s basically a religion. So if you want to legislate based on some arbitrary list of words you’ve decided you don’t want to hear, I see no reason to listen to you.
Here’s one:
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In May 2008 the Radio Times conducted an opinion poll, which found that 69% of people believed there is too much swearing on TV. In November 2008 the Sunday Express launched a Clean Up TV Crusade focusing on the excessive use of swearing and the Sunday Telegraph conducted a poll which found that 56% of people thought the f*** word should never be used on TV. The Office of Communications (Ofcom) in its Communications Market reports for 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2007 found that the majority of people believe there is too much swearing on TV.
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John Beyer of mediawatch-uk
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Haha, ‘the f*** word’. You won’t even use the word in its correct context. Even when there’s ambiguity. You might mean ‘fart’. Or ‘feet’. And let’s leave out the question of what percentage of Radio Times readers are grannies. Of course they’ll say there’s too much swearing.
But that’s a sensible one — reduce swearing. Fair enough. This one is madder:
We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Ban swearing on TV and Radio.
Too many ‘F’ words. Why? Whats the point? Get back to good pubic standards of decency. Stop the Ross-dross and promote proper use of the English language. Stop swearing on the Radio and TV!
Chris K
It’s saddening that people genuinely think that this is appropriate language in which to petition the Prime Minister. It’s also a bit of a worry that they equate ‘talking like I do’ with ‘proper use of the English language’.
And this one is even madder:
We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Ban all Swearing in public places .
Ban all swearing in public places and especially on the British Broadcasting Corporation, to bring back a standard of decency and set an example to the younger generation.
Mrs Margaret Elward of housewife
This has six signatories, including a ‘Mister Why on earh is the PM being petitioned for this?’ and someone claiming to be called ‘because we care about standards in our Country, you obviously don’t’. Well, they have a definition of ’standards’ which means arbitrarily excluding certain words from our vocabularies (but not ‘knowing how petitons work’), and I’m sorry but I have bigger things to worry about than that, and that’s before we get onto the bigger issues with allowing the government to ban words they disapprove of.
Really, who are these people? “Set an example to the younger generation”? Do you really think that the biggest problem with young people is that they (we?) swear too much? It just doesn’t make any sense. Even if someone stops us swearing, we’ll just make up some other words and shout those in exactly the same context, and then presumably half of them will try to get the new words added to the list and the other half will say ‘well, that’s not the f-star-star-star word, so that’s okay by me,’ and go back to watching Father Ted.
It’s ridiculous. Why do people insist on acting stupid?
Oh, wait. I think I know the answer to that one.
Tags for this article: Morons' Opinions , Swearing
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December 23rd, 2008 at 23:16
So Chris K wants to see some good pubic standards of decency, does he? Ha!
December 24th, 2008 at 00:44
Well, that’s very important.
You always seem to be the first to spot any kind of typo-based innuendo.
December 24th, 2008 at 20:23
Update:
On the ’swearing’ topic, there’s a Frank Skinner bit on Newsnight or Panorama or some such thing about it, and here is Graham Linehan’s take: http://whythatsdelightful.wordpress.com/2008/12/24/what-he-said-2/
Summary of what I read: there’s too much and banning it would be bad.
December 26th, 2008 at 17:32
Can we just ban Gordan Ramsey? He’s a world leader in the swear-because-I’m-not-articulate-enough-to-say-anything-clever stakes.
I’ve never understood why saying f*** is less offensive than fuck – is it just the sound (rather than the meaning) that’s offensive then?
December 26th, 2008 at 18:09
That’s always annoyed me too — I can just about understand how the word in context could offend, but the idea that the same thing but implied rather than said is okay is baffling to me. If you know it’s there, what difference does it make?
December 27th, 2008 at 20:32
I think it’s the implicit “pardon my french” that censoring yourself entails. You’re acknowledging that you really shouldn’t be using the word (while using it anyways), which shows respect for their sensibilities.
December 30th, 2008 at 13:03
Vic Reeves thinks Frankie Boyle swears too much.
http://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2008/12/30/8050/vic_reeves_blasts_frankie_boyle?rss
Apparently jokes about being a paedophile are fine as long as you don’t say ‘fuck’.
Actually, I do see his point, but really, if Frankie Boyle took Vic Reeves’ advice and made up swear words then his act wouldn’t make any sense. His depravity wouldn’t be believable then and it wouldn’t be funny.
January 5th, 2009 at 23:02
‘Too many ‘F’ words. Why? Whats the point? Get back to good pubic standards of decency.’
Ah, the good old pubic decency, why, when I was a lad pubes were honest and didn’t swear at all – not like these days.
March 1st, 2009 at 12:23
I just thought I’d say that I love this sight – I agree with you on so many topics, especially this one. I was beginning to think I was the only one! It’s like people want to take offense at anything they possibly can and it’s just stupid.
March 1st, 2009 at 15:27
I’ve also just realised I’ve written “sight” there. Clearly too early on a Sunday morning.