Comments on: A Quack and a Crank http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/ Floccinaucinihilipilificating antidisestablishmentarianism since 2001. Mon, 08 Sep 2008 10:42:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Andrew http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/#comment-5134 Andrew Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:54:09 +0000 http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/#comment-5134 Oh, wow. He's deleted the whole comment thread -- including the post that spawned it. Defending ideas is hard. Easier just to censor your critics. Oh, wow. He’s deleted the whole comment thread — including the post that spawned it. Defending ideas is hard. Easier just to censor your critics.

]]> By: Surreptitious Evil http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/#comment-3329 Surreptitious Evil Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:27:35 +0000 http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/#comment-3329 Apologies for the formatting mystook. Apologies for the formatting mystook.

]]> By: Surreptitious Evil http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/#comment-3328 Surreptitious Evil Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:26:29 +0000 http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/#comment-3328 Not quite Kepler, but I was amused to get the following from Amazon (Andrew Liddle is a ? perfectly respectable ? <a href="http://astronomy.sussex.ac.uk/~andrewl/" rel="nofollow">Professor of Astrophysics at the University of Sussex</a>) and the author of several cosmology books I have bought through them: <blockquote>We've noticed that customers who have purchased or rated Cosmological Inflation and Large-Scale Structure by Andrew R. Liddle have also purchased Planet X and The Kolbrin Bible Connection: Why The Kolbrin Bible is the Rosetta Stone of Planet X by Greg Jenner. For this reason, you might like to know that Planet X and The Kolbrin Bible Connection: Why The Kolbrin Bible is the Rosetta Stone of Planet X is now available. <b>Synopsis</B. Greg Jenner is one of the top Planet X historians alive today - if not the best! He believes that the ancients were extremely clear in their warnings to us about Planet X and 2012. In this groundbreaking work, he details numerous correlations between the 2012 prophecies of the Maya and those of other cultures with chilling clarity. Jenner believes The Kolbrin Bible to be the modern day Rosetta Stone of Planet X, because it clearly describes the destruction of Atlantis, Noah's Flood and Exodus. According to the Egyptian and Celtic authors of this ancient secular wisdom text, these cataclysms were triggered during previous flybys of Planet X. Were it not for The Kolbrin Bible, much of this ancient knowledge would be lost to us. This is ... Read more More to Explore See more in Religion & Spirituality > New Age > Divination > Prophecy See more in Science & Nature > Astronomy & Cosmology > Cosmology</b></blockquote> Not quite Kepler, but I was amused to get the following from Amazon (Andrew Liddle is a ? perfectly respectable ? Professor of Astrophysics at the University of Sussex) and the author of several cosmology books I have bought through them:

We’ve noticed that customers who have purchased or rated Cosmological Inflation and Large-Scale Structure by Andrew R. Liddle have also purchased Planet X and The Kolbrin Bible Connection: Why The Kolbrin Bible is the Rosetta Stone of Planet X by Greg Jenner. For this reason, you might like to know that Planet X and The Kolbrin Bible Connection: Why The Kolbrin Bible is the Rosetta Stone of Planet X is now available.

Synopsis</B.
Greg Jenner is one of the top Planet X historians alive today - if not the best! He believes that the ancients were extremely clear in their warnings to us about Planet X and 2012. In this groundbreaking work, he details numerous correlations between the 2012 prophecies of the Maya and those of other cultures with chilling clarity. Jenner believes The Kolbrin Bible to be the modern day Rosetta Stone of Planet X, because it clearly describes the destruction of Atlantis, Noah’s Flood and Exodus. According to the Egyptian and Celtic authors of this ancient secular wisdom text, these cataclysms were triggered during previous flybys of Planet X. Were it not for The Kolbrin Bible, much of this ancient knowledge would be lost to us. This is … Read more

More to Explore

See more in Religion & Spirituality > New Age > Divination > Prophecy
See more in Science & Nature > Astronomy & Cosmology > Cosmology

]]> By: lucy http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/#comment-2772 lucy Fri, 09 May 2008 22:47:49 +0000 http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/#comment-2772 thanks for linking me to that, i had no idea that Kepler's laws were the crackpot's equations of choice. i suppose that the maths is about the right level, no calculus back then. thanks for linking me to that, i had no idea that Kepler’s laws were the crackpot’s equations of choice. i suppose that the maths is about the right level, no calculus back then.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/#comment-2149 Andrew Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:56:52 +0000 http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/#comment-2149 <blockquote>you, sir, are arguing with a man who has only one leg</blockquote> Just like Heather Mi-- No, hang on, I'm doing this all wrong...

you, sir, are arguing with a man who has only one leg

Just like Heather Mi–

No, hang on, I’m doing this all wrong…

]]> By: the enemies of god http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/#comment-2146 the enemies of god Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:29:17 +0000 http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/#comment-2146 Andrew, as to my post on your netpal's site, i was wrong. after reading around his site a little more i have decided that you, sir, are arguing with a man who has only one leg ... good luck with that Andrew,

as to my post on your netpal’s site, i was wrong. after reading around his site a little more i have decided that you, sir, are arguing with a man who has only one leg …

good luck with that

]]> By: the enemies of god http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/#comment-2145 the enemies of god Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:25:47 +0000 http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/#comment-2145 yeah, that's funny, Friz don't have any idea of how that came about, but given the context it could be considered humorous. too bad i didn't think of it yeah, that’s funny, Friz

don’t have any idea of how that came about, but given the context it could be considered humorous. too bad i didn’t think of it

]]> By: Friz http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/#comment-2136 Friz Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:19:21 +0000 http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/#comment-2136 What do you know? You have a website called http://nun. That doesn't even make SENSE. What do you know? You have a website called http://nun.

That doesn’t even make SENSE.

]]> By: the enemies of god http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/#comment-2135 the enemies of god Sun, 06 Apr 2008 19:30:37 +0000 http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/#comment-2135 and it's "chronologically", andrew and it’s “chronologically”, andrew

]]> By: Andrew http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/#comment-2131 Andrew Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:54:36 +0000 http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/#comment-2131 Look at his latest comment -- it's pure comedy gold! http://globalpioneering.com/wp02/science-is-legal-physics/#comment-16696 Look at his latest comment — it’s pure comedy gold!

http://globalpioneering.com/wp02/science-is-legal-physics/#comment-16696

]]> By: Bad Science or Illegal Physics at Freedom of Science http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/#comment-2126 Bad Science or Illegal Physics at Freedom of Science Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:15:53 +0000 http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/#comment-2126 [...] am surprised that this blog has drawn the attention of bad science activists. These are individuals who are out there to protect science from its bad versions such as [...] [...] am surprised that this blog has drawn the attention of bad science activists. These are individuals who are out there to protect science from its bad versions such as [...]

]]> By: Andrew http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/#comment-2123 Andrew Tue, 01 Apr 2008 08:45:49 +0000 http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/#comment-2123 Oh, wow, this should be fun. Oh, wow, this should be fun.

]]> By: Science is legal physics at Freedom of Science http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/#comment-2122 Science is legal physics at Freedom of Science Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:56:27 +0000 http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/#comment-2122 [...] such physicist took the time to read this blog and wrote an article full of good ideas that is worth discussing. I thank him for this effort. I would like to hear from [...] [...] such physicist took the time to read this blog and wrote an article full of good ideas that is worth discussing. I thank him for this effort. I would like to hear from [...]

]]> By: Andrew http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/#comment-1957 Andrew Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:32:38 +0000 http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/#comment-1957 Engagement is certainly a big part of it. If H4H wants to blog about his ignorance of the scientific method then that's brilliant. That's the kind of thing people should do, and my first reaction (being the kind and giving person that I am) is to post a comment explaining it, so they can learn. If comments had been enabled then I'd probably have put up a short post explaining why we use blinded trials and statistics and left it at that. With comments disabled, it's just another bit of pro-woo propaganda, and the only way I can react is either to do nothing or to make my own blog post. And if I'm doing that, I'm going to go the whole hog and attack everything in sight, just in case people think that's the only error on H4H's site. I don't think the wiki is H4H's, by the bye. If it is then H4H is nuttier than I think any of us ever suspected. Engagement is certainly a big part of it. If H4H wants to blog about his ignorance of the scientific method then that’s brilliant. That’s the kind of thing people should do, and my first reaction (being the kind and giving person that I am) is to post a comment explaining it, so they can learn. If comments had been enabled then I’d probably have put up a short post explaining why we use blinded trials and statistics and left it at that. With comments disabled, it’s just another bit of pro-woo propaganda, and the only way I can react is either to do nothing or to make my own blog post. And if I’m doing that, I’m going to go the whole hog and attack everything in sight, just in case people think that’s the only error on H4H’s site.

I don’t think the wiki is H4H’s, by the bye. If it is then H4H is nuttier than I think any of us ever suspected.

]]> By: jdc325 http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/#comment-1956 jdc325 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:10:07 +0000 http://www.apathysketchpad.com/blog/2008/02/24/a-quack-and-a-crank/#comment-1956 I know your post was about more than censorship and engagement, but: funnily enough, the homeopathic bloggers tend to stop blogging when their ideas are challenged. IIRC, Homeopathy4Health and GoodScience used to link to NewParadigmMedicine - who stopped blogging in mid-December when AP Gaylard asked a couple of uncomfortable questions. Le Canard Noir said at the time: "Expect someone else to stop blogging soon as they realise that defending the indefensible is actually quite hard work". Regarding censorship - H4H stopped accepting comments from some readers last month and FreeToChooseHealth was so censorious that Duck started a blog solely for refused/deleted comments from FTCH. I'm not surprised that you can't edit the "Wiki" that H4H set up. I know your post was about more than censorship and engagement, but: funnily enough, the homeopathic bloggers tend to stop blogging when their ideas are challenged.

IIRC, Homeopathy4Health and GoodScience used to link to NewParadigmMedicine - who stopped blogging in mid-December when AP Gaylard asked a couple of uncomfortable questions. Le Canard Noir said at the time: “Expect someone else to stop blogging soon as they realise that defending the indefensible is actually quite hard work”.

Regarding censorship - H4H stopped accepting comments from some readers last month and FreeToChooseHealth was so censorious that Duck started a blog solely for refused/deleted comments from FTCH. I’m not surprised that you can’t edit the “Wiki” that H4H set up.

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